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Intel Motherboards : Poor OC / PSU Problem

December 20, 2016, 2:51 pm
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Author: Xaltar
Subject: Poor OC / PSU Problem
Posted: 20 Dec 2016 at 10:51pm

Happy to assist Image may be NSFW.
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As for the overclocking, your board is a solid one so in all likelihood you just have a poor overclocking CPU. My 6600k is also only properly stable at 4.4ghz, I can get it all the way up to 4.6ghz (like the validation in my sig) but it isn't stable and needs a lot of vcore. Overclocking is a very luck oriented thing, that is why some stores actually sell CPUs that they have tested stable at certain overclocks for a lot more than the retail value of the CPU. 

Google "Skylake overclocking guide" and see if you can find any info you have missed. On my system I find the easiest way to overclock is to set one of the EZ-OC modes (usually the lowest one) then adjust the multi higher until it becomes unstable. Once that happens I bump up the vcore 0.05v and try again until stable or I get to 1.4v at which point I stop and back off a little on both the multi and vcore. I would start with a fixed vcore of 1.2v and say a 42 multi and work my way up from there. Setting one of the EZ-OC modes sets a lot of things automatically for you like short and long power limit, LLC etc so you don't need to think about them. 

Good luck and let us know how it goes. 
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Intel Motherboards : Poor OC / PSU Problem

December 20, 2016, 4:06 pm
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Author: parsec
Subject: Poor OC / PSU Problem
Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 12:06am

This issue reminds me of the Wake On LAN situation, when power to the PSU is removed, and then restored. When Wake On LAN is enabled in the UEFI/BIOS, the board will start for a short time to initialize the networking chip, and then shut off, when power is restored to the board. BUT that does not seem to be what is happening to Ky0sHIR0. You could try setting Wake On LAN to Disabled in the UEFI/BIOS, if you have that option and it is Enabled.

Personally, I have never had any of my ASRock boards start for a few seconds, and then stop, when AC power is applied to the PSU, such as after working on the PC. I have all Seasonic Gold and one Platinum PSUs, and one EVGA G2 PSU, which is made by Seasonic. Honestly, I have never had a PSU that would start for a few seconds when AC power is first applied.

Ky0sHIR0 do you use the power switch on the PSU, or just on the power strip? I mean, do you use the switch on the PSU, set it to Off, and then set the power strip to Off? I don't think you do that. wardog makes a good point about the surge, inrush current spike to a PSU.

As wardog said, I also do not turn off my power strips when I shutdown the PC. The amount of power being used by the PSU is very small, two Watts with a modern PSU. The +5V standby power from the PSU is only capable of providing 15W or less to the PC. My Kill A Watt power strip shows about 5 Watts for three PCs in Shutdown, S5 mode. I use multiple power strips, all with filtering and surge protection, the PCs on one strip, monitors and networks switches on another, and one main distribution strip.
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Intel Motherboards : Z170 Extreme7+ not rebooting

December 20, 2016, 5:34 pm
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Author: jenson97
Subject: Z170 Extreme7+ not rebooting
Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:34am

Wow I knew I was tired but didn't realize I was THAT tired.  lol

UEFI version is P2.10
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Intel Motherboards : X99 Taichi only seeing 32gb of 64gb quad ch ram

December 20, 2016, 5:45 pm
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Author: wardog
Subject: X99 Taichi only seeing 32gb of 64gb quad ch ram
Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:45am

The serial numbers across all four sticks, are they numbered consecutively?
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Intel Motherboards : Z170 Extreme7+ not rebooting

December 20, 2016, 5:55 pm
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Author: jenson97
Subject: Z170 Extreme7+ not rebooting
Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 1:55am

Just updated to 7.30.  Will try switching the speed around again after work.
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Intel Motherboards : Poor OC / PSU Problem

December 20, 2016, 7:26 pm
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Author: Ky0sHiR0
Subject: Poor OC / PSU Problem
Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 3:26am

Hello all,
Thank You for all your posts. That was very fast and precise help.
I clear CMOS + reconnect all cables and now everything works flawless : )

About OC - currently im on Offset + 85mV with 4,3 GHz LLC level 1 and cache ratio 39.
I tried some of 4,5 GHz with 1,39 V ~ 1,408 V but it crashed after 5-10 minutes (1 core).
I think I just lost silicone lottery :)
But... about PSU topic - everything works and im really grateful :)
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Intel Motherboards : J4205-ITX not booting @ dual channel 1866 ?!?

December 20, 2016, 11:07 pm
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Author: andre117
Subject: J4205-ITX not booting @ dual channel 1866 ?!?
Posted: 21 Dec 2016 at 7:07am

Ok, it seems that dual channel is unstable. It crashes in dual channel testing with memtest86. Crash happens using multiple CPU and is spectacular (see screenshot). The same crash happens in windows from time to time when watching video. But it does not happen in single channel mode. There may exist a problem with dual channel mode with this board.

This is the crash while running memtest86 v4.3.7:
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Is there a bios fix ? The RAM is fine, tested on another machine.

Edited by andre117 - 2 hours 21 minutes ago at 7:51am
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Intel Motherboards : Z170 extreme 4 bios settings

December 22, 2016, 3:31 am
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Author: parsec
Subject: Z170 extreme 4 bios settings
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 11:31am

Yes you are right, Speed Shift is a new option in Skylake and refined in Kaby Lake processors. When enabled, it causes the change from a low processor speed when Speed Step is enabled (800MHz), and from a higher C State power saving level (C6 or C7 for example) to a higher processor speed, and the full on, C0 state.

Intel did not publicize Speed Shift very much when Skylake processors were released, and its full implementation will not be realized until Kaby Lake processors are released. Intel does not include Speed Shift in the list of processor features (Advanced Technologies) for Skylake processors, or currently for the few Kaby Lake mobile processors that are available only from OEM manufactures in laptop PCs.

What UEFI/BIOS version are you using now? I suggest updating to one of the versions that supports Kaby Lake, 7.00 in the main BIOS download page, or 7.10 in the Beta Zone. Speed Shift should be in the OC Tweaker, CPU Configuration screen, added in one of those versions.
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Intel Motherboards : OC Formula Z170 Red Light near RAM always on

December 22, 2016, 3:32 am
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Author: VanPurren
Subject: OC Formula Z170 Red Light near RAM always on
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 11:32am

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Clik here to view. Originally posted by parsec parsec wrote:


I'm not 100% certain which LED you are referring to, I'll explain why in a moment, but I believe you mean the LEDs in this area of your board:

(removed image for smaller quote)

They would be item 8 in the picture above, correct?

They are called the POST Status Checker LEDs. This description is from section 2.9 in your board's manual:

?Post Status Checker<div style="left: 89.5977px; top: 237.926px; font-size: 16.8654px; font-family: serif; trans: scaleX0.914184;" -canvas-width="66.14121955316648">Post Status Checker (PSC) diagnoses the computer when users power on the machine. It emits a red light to indicater whether the CPU, memory, VGA or storage is dysfunctional. The lights go off if the four mentioned above are functioning normally.
Note that there are four PSC LEDs, while you wrote three in your post. You said the lowest LED is on.

I'm not sure which LED is actually on. The lowest of the four is the storage/Boot LED, and the third one is the VGA LED. The memory/DRAM LED is the second from the top.

Please check again and let us know which LED is on. I know they are small and difficult to see. Also, I am using your board's manual as a reference, since I don't have your board, and sometimes there are differences between the manual and what is printed on the board. The picture of your board on its information page seems to show four LEDs in that location.

http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z170%20OC%20Formula/


Yeah sorry about that (I have terrible eyes apparently lol) I'm talking about what would be item 8, and you are right it is actually the 4th light not the 3rd which confuses me even more since changing my ram settings turns it off for me on certain reboots. I haven't seen any error codes or anything for it while the light is on either and am currently in windows with the light on.

Edited by VanPurren - 7 hours 44 minutes ago at 2:00pm
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Intel Motherboards : OC Formula Z170 Red Light near RAM always on

December 22, 2016, 5:33 am
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Author: parsec
Subject: OC Formula Z170 Red Light near RAM always on
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 1:33pm

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Clik here to view. Originally posted by VanPurren VanPurren wrote:



Yeah sorry about that (I have terrible eyes apparently lol) I'm talking about what would be item 8, and you are right it is actually the 4th light not the 3rd which confuses me even more since changing my ram settings turns it off for me on certain reboots. I haven't seen any error codes or anything for it while the light is on either and am currently in windows with the light on.


No problem, just want to be 100% certain what is happening.

So it's the storage/BOOT LED that remains on. Curious that it will shut off sometimes after changing the memory settings.

Your link to your memory did not work, please try again or if you know the full model number, please let us know what it is.

Apparently you don't have any disappearing drives in the PC?

Do you have any problem entries in Device Manager?

Do you have any USB flash drives or external drives connected to the PC?

What drives do you have in that PC?

Your board has both Intel SATA ports, and four SATA ports provided by the ASMedia chipsets. Do you have any drives connected to the four SATA ports at the bottom of the stack of SATA ports on the left side of the board? Those are the ASMedia SATA ports.

What is the SATA mode set to for each of the two SATA controllers? The default values?

Do you have any type of dual booting OS installation? Anything that is somewhat unusual about your OS installation?

Do you use the Fast Boot option?

The third LED is VGA, anything not quite right with your video source?




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Intel Motherboards : Memory Trouble?

December 22, 2016, 5:59 am
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Author: wardog
Subject: Memory Trouble?
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 1:59pm

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Clik here to view. Originally posted by Rowell Rowell wrote:

They came together in 2 packs (2 x 8 gb).  All 4 seem to be exactly the same (model number, etc).
Ordered from the same company, at the same time.


Meh, sometimes you can get lucky by not buying and using matched sticks.


Two things ..........

1. Pair up your sticks by S/N and use them as such. My guess is when paired by SN, as a single pair they'll play nice in Dual Channel mode.

2. In CPU-z's SPD tab, compare the timings and voltage for/while each Kit(2x8GB) Kit is installed, looking for differences between the two Kits

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Intel Motherboards : OC Formula Z170 Red Light near RAM always on

December 22, 2016, 6:00 am
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Author: VanPurren
Subject: OC Formula Z170 Red Light near RAM always on
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 2:00pm

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Clik here to view. Quote Yeah sorry about that (I have terrible eyes apparently lol) I'm talking about what would be item 8, and you are right it is actually the 4th light not the 3rd which confuses me even more since changing my ram settings turns it off for me on certain reboots. I haven't seen any error codes or anything for it while the light is on either and am currently in windows with the light on.


No problem, just want to be 100% certain what is happening.

So it's the storage/BOOT LED that remains on. Curious that it will shut off sometimes after changing the memory settings.

Your link to your memory did not work, please try again or if you know the full model number, please let us know what it is.

Apparently you don't have any disappearing drives in the PC?

Do you have any problem entries in Device Manager?

Do you have any USB flash drives or external drives connected to the PC?

What drives do you have in that PC?

Your board has both Intel SATA ports, and four SATA ports provided by the ASMedia chipsets. Do you have any drives connected to the four SATA ports at the bottom of the stack of SATA ports on the left side of the board? Those are the ASMedia SATA ports.

What is the SATA mode set to for each of the two SATA controllers? The default values?

Do you have any type of dual booting OS installation? Anything that is somewhat unusual about your OS installation?

Do you use the Fast Boot option?

The third LED is VGA, anything not quite right with your video source?


Fixed the link from newegg to corsair's site but for text reference the kit model is CMK16GX4M2A2666C16

I sometimes have an old external connected via usb 2.0, but I've stopped plugging it in entirely recently and the issue was happening without it being plugged in.

No problem entries in Device Manager

I have two internal drives:
kingston SH103S3120G (boot drive ssd)
western digital WD30EZRX-00D8PB0

No dual boot OS setup, standard win 10 pro install, also fastboot is on but I've only had it on recently, issue has occurred with it both on and off.

SATA mode is default value currently

since I got closer and checked it's definitely the 4th light, not the third, vga is setup fine and haven't had any video issues I can think of.

My two drives are plugged into:
SATA 3_0 (Kingston SSD)
SATA 3_2 (Western Digital HDD)
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Intel Motherboards : Q1900-ITX with Ubuntu 16.04 Freezing

December 22, 2016, 8:57 am
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Author: NX3
Subject: Q1900-ITX with Ubuntu 16.04 Freezing
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 4:57pm

After much searching I've found the issue is a linux kernal bug caused by cstate. It doesn't look like Intel are helping much on this given it effect a vast range of chips by them and they are a linux supporter.

Details here along with some manual work arounds which so far are working for me. It looks like kernal 4.8 or 4.9 might fix it but I've not tried them yet.

https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109051

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Intel Motherboards : Q1900-ITX with Ubuntu 16.04 Freezing

December 22, 2016, 9:17 am
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Author: Xaltar
Subject: Q1900-ITX with Ubuntu 16.04 Freezing
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 5:17pm

Thank you for the update and info, I will hold on to that link for anyone else experiencing these issues Image may be NSFW.
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Intel Motherboards : SED harddisk encryption support on recent boards?

December 22, 2016, 10:09 am
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Author: h311m4n
Subject: SED harddisk encryption support on recent boards?
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 6:09pm

Hello,

I have been searching for motherboards that are compatible with encrypting SED drives. The information available for this is quite scarce.

I did stumble upon a post on hardwareforum.com where I guy sent an inquiry about this to AsRock support for a Z170 Pro4S. AsRock support responded :

1. Please reboot the system then press[Delete] to enter the BIOS setup.
2. In BIOS main screen, please press[Ctrl]+[Shift]+[F3].
3. Afterward, press[F10] to save the setting and exit.
4. Reboot the system then enter the BIOS setup again, you can see the HDD security Configuration in Security tab. "

Can someone confirm this procedure is possible on all recent boards? Is it specific to AsRock boards?

Thanks in advance!
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Intel Motherboards : Z77 Extreme4 SM951 UEFI BIOS

December 22, 2016, 1:29 pm
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Author: loong
Subject: Z77 Extreme4 SM951 UEFI BIOS
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 9:29pm

Can I use this bios on Z77 Extreme4-M ?
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Intel Motherboards : SED harddisk encryption support on recent boards?

December 22, 2016, 1:29 pm
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Author: parsec
Subject: SED harddisk encryption support on recent boards?
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 9:29pm

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Clik here to view. Originally posted by h311m4n h311m4n wrote:

Hello,

I have been searching for motherboards that are compatible with encrypting SED drives. The information available for this is quite scarce.

I did stumble upon a post on hardwareforum.com where I guy sent an inquiry about this to AsRock support for a Z170 Pro4S. AsRock support responded :

1. Please reboot the system then press[Delete] to enter the BIOS setup.
2. In BIOS main screen, please press[Ctrl]+[Shift]+[F3].
3. Afterward, press[F10] to save the setting and exit.
4. Reboot the system then enter the BIOS setup again, you can see the HDD security Configuration in Security tab. "

Can someone confirm this procedure is possible on all recent boards? Is it specific to AsRock boards?

Thanks in advance!


I tried the procedure you included above on a new ASRock board, and nothing new appeared in the Security screen. Image may be NSFW.
Clik here to view. Confused

I'll try again later with a different ASRock board, but I am not aware of any procedure like this, with the result you described.
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Intel Motherboards : 1394 guid are invalid in both cmos and flash

December 22, 2016, 3:31 pm
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Author: wardog
Subject: 1394 guid are invalid in both cmos and flash
Posted: 22 Dec 2016 at 11:31pm

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Clik here to view. Originally posted by remey remey wrote:

hi
the problem is as this:

''1394 GUI is invalid in CMOS and FLASH''
there is a 12 alpha-numeric char. set *****beside the ''1394''[not USB] header****[right beside[right side] the FDD mb connector] ON the mb itself.

the header at the bottom of the board is the fdd. but, this has a ***16 character**** set of numbers/letters not 12.
shud i use the 12 number set[the 1394 set]?

on the right side, midway, of the mb, there is a ''white sticker''. it has been mentioned that the numbers written here should be used
am confuse :(

this white sticker has 2 sets of numbers on it.

the first set has 12 characters...the other has...etc
...etc.  etc...just tell me what i shud do to sort this, ok.
it is a ''1394 gui'' error.

p.s. i purchased a 'new' BIOS chip for the board from a reputable source. i have bought previous chips for other boards[not ASROCK] and these worked perfectly as they were needed.
the BIOS purchased is dedicated for this particular one. thought the chip might sort it.

it didn't.

the POST page after replcaement of the chip, reads correctly as in, all details on the POST page were correct as far as i could make out.

the same error is present[question is how could it with a new chip] :(

to the asrock technician, kindly help me sort this.
am sure enough it is doable.
thanks.


The file ASRock_TSD posted earlier in this Thread on Mega has everything you need, including a pic.
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Intel Motherboards : Memory Trouble?

December 22, 2016, 4:16 pm
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Author: Rowell
Subject: Memory Trouble?
Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 12:16am

They are the same kits.  Same exact everything. Came in pairs in 2 packages.
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Intel Motherboards : J3455M powering on-off-on before booting

December 22, 2016, 4:50 pm
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Author: nocny
Subject: J3455M powering on-off-on before booting
Posted: 23 Dec 2016 at 12:50am

In my case (I have j3455-itx) proper clearing of the cmos and enable of csm (all 3 settings for uefi) Solved the problem, now it powers off and on only after saving bios.
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